Todd Bentley - Bad Tree? NEW info

EmptyTomb4TW Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - If that is directed at Todd I'd say your ignorant of the truth of that matter. He makes much less than others ministers of that caliber

DawnTransformed Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Correction:The quote from the blog about the revival not being of God, coupled with a picture representing mysticism I thought was fitting at this point in the video.a big mistake like that happens when I have my kids running around distracting me,lol.

rezcrash88 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - After listening to Todd Bentley and Paul Washer, i left a comment before any of this news came about . Think i put it on vid ~ T Bentley v P Washer ~ i was right.

Shyne131 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Empty... I will ignore the caliber of todds ministry. As fas as him making much less money, I think that could be a matter of perspective.The pastors of a church I went to a few years back went to a special pastors lunch during a conference that fresh fire threw.Ken greter and todd went on quite a bit about money. They told how YEARS ago (prev. to this), they made their 1st million, and were increasing all the time. They encouraged the ministers to really focus on money and to send it to them.

Shyne131 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - cont'd Empty.There is also the manner in which todd does "offerings". Robert Ricciardelli (not sure of spelling) spoke up on the manipulative way todd taken an offering. He approached steven strader about it. todd had said at the revival that God had told him there 10 people who could give x-amount of $1,000's, etc.They went to todd, he admitted it was wrong.He had wanted to raise $30,000 to build a center.They asked him to apologize to the people, he refused....cont'd

Shyne131 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Empty..(I'll try to make this the last one) he said what's the point since there are new people every night. They let it go. But that is a very ungodly approach to money, esp. other people's money. Christian leaders are called to a very high standard see 1 Peter 5:2,3 ~ they are to be an example to the flock. This was not a good example, like a number of others. And there was never an apology offered either.

EmptyTomb4TW Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Shyne131:Ya we defiantly have our own perspective how what alot is in regards to money.Maybe it is I who is ignorant and in fact you have more knowledge on this matter. I have never heard of these situations but you seem to have first hand knowledge..I wish he Todd would apologize. He seemed so open about admitting all the bad things before he was saved. I agree that as a ministers and a Christians we should hold to a high standard as mentioned in 1 Peter 5:1-6.

EmptyTomb4TW Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Shyne131:Sadly enough though so many minsters have not upheld these scriptures in 1 Peter 5:1-6. Even though this is the case I do not much pass judgment on them but leave that for God and themselves. Not that I saying you have.My point is just that I do not think we call these people evil or false prophets. Sure if there are such problems choose not to support them or follow them. But there is no need to speak out against them.Anyway thank you for you input I appreciate it much.

Shyne131 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - EmptyTomb... No problem. I had sat under todd's and paticia's teachings personally years ago, spending considerable time with Patricia's particularly. I have seen a lot. And as the Lord led me, I renounced and repented of it. I do speak from firsthand knowledge. I have seen the fruit of it over the years, it hasn't been good. God bless you as you continue in your walk with the Lord. May He show you what you need to know through His Holy Word. Shyne

YouThoughtYouKnew Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Just the manifestation of Todds folly before ALL men as the scriptures promise!Endure HARDNESS as a good soldier of Jesus Christ!God Bless you my lovely wife!

wachteropdemuur Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - 'Drunk in the spirit' is not a new hype. Years ago you coulf find it in Toronto and also in Pensecola.

jemimahmercy Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Ja dat weet ik ook, ik ben in die hele beweging tot geloof gekomen, zelfs hele taferelen gezien in Vlissingen, waar volgens mij de uitgeverij van Bread of life ook onder valt.Dus dat fenomeen is me echt niet onbekend, alleen wordt het weer als een nieuwe hype naar voren gebracht.

EmptyTomb4TW Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Asuza street, Brownsville, and through the Jesus Movement to add a few more

JesusIsInLoveWithYou Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - I was hoping to see some repentance,grace, mercy and prayer scriptures on the videos. Are you Jehovah's Witnesses or some other denomination outside of Christianity?I know Christianity is different than all of the other religions?490 times in a day means Unlimited forgiveness as we repent and try to do our best as we grow in the knowledge of God.The thing with Christianity is what we give is what is given back to us good measure pressed down.Good or evil rewards.God is full of Justice and Mercy.

JesusIsInLoveWithYou Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - The Parable,in Matt 18,says Our Heavenly Father will Make All of our debts(sins)come back upon Every One of Us and give us over to the tormentors,"if we do not From our hearts freely Forgive our brothers and sisters their trespasses."Why should We have all of the chances to repent, be forgiven, restored, many times,if We are not going to have Compassion on EVERY sinner who repents?These men and women appear to have no repentance, forgiveness and being reinstated to fellowship? Respectfully, Walt

DawnTransformed Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - None of us are JW's. Todd didn't sin against me so there is nothing for me to forgive. The point of this video is that a good tree cannot yield bad fruit. It's not just about adultery, but a totality of the adultery, drunkeness, and all of the false doctrine he teaches along with the lies he's told.

IndigoStarrZ Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Bad tree? my parents are STRONG christians and they are seperated..that doesn't mean they have bad fruit people are people..it happens..I think as christian we need to remain unjudgemental..Do I like TODD...NO!!

DawnTransformed Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - please give me scripture to support what you've said about christians who get separated but yet, are strong christians.We, as christians, are to judge those INSIDE the body, as it is written. I think its awful that they are separated and I pray they can be reconciled.

JesusIsInLoveWithYou Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - From what I have been reading, many here have already condemned to destruction, with NO hope of restoration,Todd and several others for testifying about a few testimonies and experiences that clearly show they WERE and Are deceived.The other sins if confessed and repented of are forgiven. Your sin remains for condemning what God has forgiven?Since this is your channel and responsiblity for what is left in print you may find out one day that you are responsible for many sins.James 5:19-20

JesusIsInLoveWithYou Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Let All Your Things be Done with Love. 1 Cor 16:14Love endures long and is patient and kind; Love never is envious, jealous or boastful.It is not inflated with pride; it is not rude. Love does not insist on its own rights or its own way, it is not easily angered or resentful; and it keeps no record of the evil done to it. Love does not rejoice in evil but rejoices when truth prevails. Love always protects, believes all things, always hopes, perseveres through all things. 1 Cor 13:4-7

DawnTransformed Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - I don't agree with you at all. What we are seeing is bad fruit from a bad tree and it's okay to judge the fruit. I am not condemning Todd to hell, that judgment is reserved for God alone.

DawnTransformed Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Amen I agree.

reuven2007 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Great job!! Dawn: thank you for being faithful in letting the light shine through the darkness..........

FleeFROMItchingEARS Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - IndigoStarrZ, you just contradicted yourself. You said: "I think as christian we need to remain unjudgemental..Do I like TODD...NO!!" First, you said not to be judgemental but in the next sentence you declare that you do not like Todd. The unjudgemental/lukewarm person will be spit out of the mouth of God. We are called to judge but not hypocritically.

Jeromy7566 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - any profet of god that was called reconized their sin and repented, devorce is sin. Also they did not continue in it or go in to more sin, he was a fraud.....