Added: Dec 5, 2008
From: AlJazeeraEnglish
Duration: 10:41
The coalition government that drove Musharraf from power last week has disintegrated. The split in the coalition after Nawaz Sharief has pulled out of the ruling coalition, has created fresh political uncertainty in Pakistan, as it faces a deteriorating security situation and a declining economy.
Channel: News
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Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Mediaval was a period which happened in Europe while Islamic nation was flurishing and the greatest nation and was in its golden age. Only after the religion and Sharia was neglected it fell apart. And you dare to call me mediaval while you youre self even don't have manners to talk without curse words. I am above that my religion forbids indecent talk. I live in todays world but you don't. You live in youre own blind reality. You still didn't give and argument.
Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - watch?v=zQFzAKCsnC0
feareddead Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Oh Man, don't tell me you believe that Dajjal bullshit and Jesus coming back crap, do you??
tgrigsby7 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - piss off you ignorant, stone age, goat molester, feareddead.
tgrigsby7 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - I didn't say Saddam implemented Sharia; I was drawing a direct correlation between the vicious and brutal oppression of Saddam's law and Sharia. Are you going to tell me that Sharia doesn't completely oppress women, that Sharia penalties don't include stoning and mutilation?
Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Just as Bush draw a direct correlation between Saddam and Nuclear weapons. Saddams law was no more brutal as the American world opressive dominance which has costed 1.5 million dead people 40 times more then Saddam ever killed. Sharia doesn't completely oppress woman. It gives them prohibitions and rights just as it does to Man. Sharia penalties Include Stoning for Adultery just as the Bible does(Leviticus 20:10+21:9). Sharia penalties theft by cutting of the Hand and Bible death(Joshua 7:15)
feareddead Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Ahmedo1984, If a wife cheats, different type of people do WIDE range of things, depending on their relation w/ wife and their personality. However, ASSAULT, no matter in what form, should be a crime. Stoning is inconceivable. Its not a measured punishment. And, at least in Canada, it is unthinkable for it to be accepted.
feareddead Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - As far as stealing is concerned, it depends on what you stole, how you stole, etc. If criminal laws were as simple as to cut hands, we will not achieve a stable society here, there will be a huge backlash. You can't just MAKE! laws.This again points towards your ignorance of the society we live in; its especially shameful if you live in Canada or the U.S. and have these thoughts.
feareddead Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Oh and don't bring up Bible; if those laws were the constitution, everything would be fucked up.
feareddead Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - a "goat molester? If anything it should your wife, not a GOAT! what are you doing?
Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - As far as steeling and the mutilation of the Hand is concerned there is a minimum of according to our Prophet(pbuh) the equality of a armord coat in those times. Lets say starting from 2000$ or something in that area of know. Where as people who need money are ordered to ask for a handout and the believers are ordered to support those in need by sharing their welth to make sure people are not in need to comit theft except for luxery means.
Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Look I don't say in Canada you have to follow Sharia. This is youre business what you do. But I say a 100% Islamic counry must implement Sharia. Now you can agree or disagree but this is youre opinion which you have a right to in Canada and I have my opinion. And Stoning is not only for wife cheating but also for Husband cheating. Thus there is no discrimination in the punishment.
Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - I agree some laws of Bible don't comply with the world of now and are even to harsh from Sharia point of vieuw but some of the laws are implemented true the lifetime of Human beings and are very effective in preventing criminality. Sharia is not to punish Criminals but to prevent criminality by harsh punishments and it works. In Saudi Arabia where Sharia is implemented Criminality records are one of the lowest in the world and people can leave their belongings outside without fear of theft.
feareddead Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Oh and in that fucking up country called Saudi-fucking-Arabia, Women can't vote...actually fuck that, they don't even have a democratically elected government, they have...kings! Oh and, Rape victims are a disgrace there. Just go visit Amnesty Intl. Website to learn about the great achievement of that filthy country..Very good system it has! the whole world should learn from it!...Even the most religious Muslims I know hate that piece of land, but you,...nope not you.
CriminalPress Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - oh God, so off topic arguments! State must be separate from church; understand than and end this dumb conversation.Anyways, I hope Pakistan stays democratic permanently, that way all the wounds have a chance of self healing. Dictatorship/Theocracy just ruins it. Peace.
tgrigsby7 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Ah, culture clash. Feareddead, in the U.S., we don't marry goats. Perhaps you do, in which case I retract my statement about you *molesting* goats. Of course this puts you further back than the stone age -- by then humanity had figured out that goats weren't nearly as much fun as real women. But you wouldn't know anything about that would you.(Yawn)Well, that was fun, if pointless. Go home, feareddead. Your wife needs feeding.
tgrigsby7 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Since Leviticus was written (roughly 1500 BC?), our laws and methods for handling criminals include prisons, which would not have been available to nomadic tribes, and a variety of rehabilitation programs, unheard of until recent times. Sharia was originally created during a harsh and primitive age, and continues to be espoused by people who prefer mutilation and brutal, painful death to more humane methods of preserving life, teaching civil responsibility, and restoring dignity.
tgrigsby7 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - I would beg to differ. Yes, you stone for adultery, but adultery is applied in cases of rape to women only. Why? Why the completely moronic requirement that a women must find 5 male witnesses to a rape in order to have it classified as rape and to avoid being charged with adultery and stoned to death? You seem reasonably intelligent. Are you saying you agree with that application of the law?
Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Are you going to teach me about my religion? Comon be smart. I have said before that There is no 100% Sharia law in the world now. Partialy laws maybe and this is because the goverments Tiranic leaderships. The True Sharia law command stoning for Adultery both to Men and Woman. And Rape meanse death penalty for the raper. Now a woman is ordered not to travel without Husband or a relative male for Protection when she goes against that law and She is raped she is partialy responsible for.....
Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - ....breaking the law by traveling alone. Now the guy will be put to death for Rape if proven and if not He will get wiplashes and Prison for fornication outside of Marriage and the Woman will face the same And the withnesses are 2 male or 4 female or 1 male and 2 female. And if one of the witnesses lies all of the witnesses face 100 wiplashes. If the laws are followed correctly there is no chance for Rape. When abided by Law the Chance to be raped is one in Billion so I agree with the aplication
Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Excactly that's why I said in the Beginning of the Discussion that there is nowhere in the world a 100% Sharia. Saudia Arabia has partialy Sharia to the level it suits the King. I hate The Saud leadership also but there is potential if the System changes. The First leader of Moslims after our Prophet was elected by the People and this is the System which is from Sharia but there is no Sharia nowhere in the world only Tiranic leaders.
Ahmedo1984 Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - So treating a Murderer kindly is Civilized? Rewarding a thief is civilized?Letting Rapers know they can get away with raping is civilized? In Islam we believe in preserving the live of the innocent, the welth of the victim and the dignity of the woman who is raped and not to reward Criminals for their behaviour. Criminals must be handeld harshly and especialy when they are well aware of the concequences of their actions. If a murderer knows he will be put to deat when murdering he deserves it
yahoovisitor Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Since the day Pakistan evolved as a new & independent Islamic estate Anti-Islamic Alliance is at its best not letting any political or financial stability prevail here.Touts like Zardari & Musharraf etc are being used, paid & strongly supported by all means to sabotage Pakistan in all departments of life.Result is evident in the shape of a devilish group ruling it. Irony of fate is that this devilish group has been educated in the west and knows the secrets of stability but doesn't apply them.
yahoovisitor Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - Loans are granted to Pakistan but are not monitored/audited to see the completion of the project they are sanctioned for. Pakistani ruling class & govt departments eventually eat up the entire sum. Are these loans granted to promote hypocrisy, gradually leading to fake inflation, injustice & poverty? The end result nowadays is reaction in the form of suicide bombing & destruction due to the problems mentioned. Kalabagh Dam & many projects are just a dream due to this attitude of IMF & World Bank
feareddead Says:
Dec 5, 2008 - What Education level have you had? I am just wondering? Are you in University? Because if you are, and still have these medieval thoughts, then thats fucked up buddy. Learn to live in todays world.