GODS PROOF,,CopScott as GodsCop on GodsWeb. PROOF I

copscott Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Don't be so touchy, the "simpletons" also referred to me and my fellow believers.

IzzyBunneh Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - i know you were referring to theists, that was my point. theists can be simpletons, but so can everyone else too. imply since i'm an atheist i automatically think theists are simpletons is rather a crude way of looking at thingsvery accusatory thing to say really O:

indignant99 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Well I don't have any problem calling you a simpleton, you simpleton. You've lost the ability to think, because your brain has been slashed & mashed, sliced & diced, by loud-mouth liars (preachers and co-idiots) since you were born. And you didn't have the strength of character, nor strength of intellect, to oppose the garbage fed you. We are cursed to have so many mental defectives such as yourself in the USA. Especially in the retarded bible-belt South. I spent time in Texas, but escaped. Yay

AtheistUTube Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Good basic common sense, there is evidence available to anyone willing to actually look.

defaultideology Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - You mentioned, "you got to have some room for some faith." Declaring an opinion or alleged fact to be a matter of faith provides no evidential support, it gives us no reason to think it to be true. It merely acknowledges there is no evidence.. Complexity and staggering statistics = God. You're argument is really poor.

copscott Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Amazing, I lay out multiple pieces of evidence, not a tremendous amount for a few minutes, and people focus on the small points they can attack, you truly are blind. Never do I declare any such thing, after a preponderance of evidence, I'm glad He left room for faith. People don't use their God given brains much any more.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - So in closing you presented no evidence whatsoever and rely on the old stand by "god did it because I have faith he did" and we all know that faith is only believing in something without evidence for it.In the future give up that lame example of "If this inanimate object needs a designer so does a living organism" no we don't.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - 5. The bible? Again the bible is proof of nothing. It was voted into existence by a council of bishops in 325 C.E. at Nicea. No one knows who the authors were or exactly when they were written.6. Personal encounters? Give me a break. You're going to try and say a judge would accept the testimony of someone who didn't see the crime but a voice in their head told them he did it? You know better than that. All the delusional rantings of blind brainwashed sheep amounts to exactly zero evidence.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - 3. The solar system? come on if the planets orbits were perfect circles and straight in line and all spinning the same direction and speed, then you would have some evidence of a creator. Since none of that is true your evidence just flew out the window. 4. Jesus? lol now that one is the funniest one. There is NO proof that your Jesus even existed, none, nada, zip, zero, zilch. The bible is in no way proof of anything.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - 1. Your body? give me a break. Your body is a living changing organism that has evolved over many years to it's present form. No evidence of design plenty for evolution. 2. the Earth/ lol lame the Earth is in no way proof of a designer. Is it really so hard to understand that the Earth sustains the life that it does because the conditions are right for those kind of life. Many years ago the atmosphere was not as it is now and very different life existed.

copscott Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Gettyman, thanks for your decent words on the other videos, but here I almost don't know where to start with so much info for so little time and space. "No evidence whatsoever" you have got to be kidding or high(kidding). I don't have the space here to refute all your "silly" and "blind" absolutes, but I can and will in future correspondence or video.I believe in many things I have evidence for, plus things I have none for, like the belief that even you will come to KNOW HIM, peace.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Refute away lol well try anyway. Just to be clear. Atheists do not consider the bible as proof of anything. We do not see creation as evidence. The presumed existence of mythological beings that have no proof of their existence, again not proof. What you laid out was not proof to us it was as you say, silly and blind opinion. If you have some new and real proof please show it.

copscott Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - It always amazes me what people mean by evidence, I don't have a body, or even a smoking gun. You make a case with a fingerprint,a hair fragment,a tool impression,personal testimony and other pieces that come together as a whole. I have indications of design,purpose and meaning. There were eyewitnesses and other evidences of Jesus, the Bible, and history that you discard, and as a whole they do make a case, but I will do a better job at presenting such in the future, thanks.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - The problem you have is you DON'T have indications of design, purpose or meaning. You may think you do but on this end all we hear is your opinion and you know what those are like. Just because you can't see how evolution could work does not mean it doesn't. It does and there is a mountain of evidence for it. Eyewitnesses? Where? The bible? Come on again the bible is Not proof. Tell me why if there were so many witnesses why didn't any chronicler of the time write about it?

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Hey when you make an extraordinary claim you need extraordinary evidence. You should know that. You should also know that no judge would convict anyone when the only evidence you have is an anonymous book that says Jim killed his wife, and a few witnesses that didn't really see anything but an inner voice said he did it.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - "There were eyewitnesses and other evidences of Jesus, the Bible, and history that you discard"No there are not any other proofs of Jesus existence, only in the bible nowhere else. OK there is the verified forgery in Josephus but other than that nothing. I feel your intentions are good but really you have no proof. We aren't lost sheep, we aren't blinded by the devil, we don't hate god, for the most part we just over came the fear and have no need for the whole thing.

copscott Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Wow Gettyman1 I'm impressed, I've always known that if you let them keep talking they will hang themselves. In a few messages you,ve gone from "Nothing,Nada,Nill" to "the only evidence you have is an anonymous book, and a few witnesses". Keep talking, keep thinking, and I "believe" you might get there yet, I have little evidence of it, but I have faith, thanks.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - An anonymous book IS nothing, nada, nill. When did I say there were witnesses? That was you, you said "There were eyewitnesses and other evidences of Jesus, the Bible". I know there were no witnesses because there was nothing to be a witnesses to. Bingo!! all you have is faith and if that's good enough for you great, but when you try to convert atheists it isn't even close enough. Your welcome

copscott Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Read your words,Feudian thou it may be, "book,and a few witnesses". Something is obviously eating at you Gettyman, unfortunately I can't continue in this tit for tat, for now, but I believe even your subjective, emotional cries of "we aren't,we are'nt,we don't have no need for the whole thing" will gnaw at you, because you obviously care about the issue, you just want more and that's commendable, He will hear you!! Peace and out for now.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Once again I never said "all you have is a book and a few witnesses" They were you your words. I said a judge wouldn't accept that as evidence. How you got I said you had a book and witnesses from that is beyond me. I said all you have is your opinion and faith and that's not proof of anything. When you put words between " "'s means I lifted it from your post not that they are my words.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - OK I found what you are talking about, read it again, it doesn't say all you have is a book and witnesses, it says a judge in a court room wouldn't convict someone just because an anonymous book said he did the crime. where does that say you have proof? it doesn't.

AtheistUTube Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - Hey getty, read your words here, "you should also knoe that no judge would convict anyone when the only evidence you have is an anonymous book that says Jim killed his wife (whatever that means), and a few witnesses that really didn't see anything but an inner voice said he did it" those do sound like your words, I think he was right.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - I found it myself but it doesn't say that all he has is the book and witnesses for proof of god. I only said if he took a case to court where his only proof of a murder(the Jim killed his wife line)was an anonymous book and the type of witnesses he described in the video then the judge would boot the case. Since no body knows who wrote the books of the bible it is an anonymous book. Personal relationships with a myth are also not evidence.

AtheistUTube Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - You said what you said, you've been served, admit it and go on.

gettyman1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - That's right I said what I said. What I didn't say was he had an anonymous book and witnesses as his proof of god. How anyone could possible see that in what I said would truly amaze me.No I haven't been "served" He just took what I said out of context plain and simple.